SIMUL8R Mark II PVC plans - bottom of pg #7, donations accepted 53 53

[RoadKill 1]

 Simul8r sick rig mate well done. The mk2's inverted pedals is a great idea thanks for sharing your plans. I'm 6'3" was wondering does inverting the pedals shorten the leg room very much? Thanks Brad

 

BTW the MKII plans in post 175 are on page 9

 

 

Much taller than the Mk1 for sure. I stretched the original lower frame and raised the front a few more inches just to accomodate gamers much like Darin Gangi's height who if I'm not mistaken stands 6'3". My rig with the seat I mounted should allow those pass 6'5" I'm sure.

[bimM3r 1]

Finally finished my S1MUL8R rig w/ the custom stock car cage, whuddya think?

Not sure you understand the concept of simulation... It's supposed to look like a racing cockpit. This IS a racing cockpit! Awesome job. Tell me you didn't buy a Kirkey racing seat for this thing?!?

[simul8r 114]

 Simul8r sick rig mate well done. The mk2's inverted pedals is a great idea thanks for sharing your plans. I'm 6'3" was wondering does inverting the pedals shorten the leg room very much? Thanks Brad

 

BTW the MKII plans in post 175 are on page 9

Thanks Roadkil, seems I have to make a few changes to the thread since they changed a few things to the site.

 

Thinking about the reverse pedals you may be right. Compared to the original flat layout of the Logitech's design the reverse mod does bring the pedals closer. Hmmm, the only way I see how to compensate this for taller users like yourself would be extending the steering wheel mount closer to you. The seat on sliders will adjust accordingly. So rather than having 5-6 inches extension from edge of pipe for a wheel mount make it 8-9 inches or thereabouts.

[simul8r 114]

Awesome rig, and I totally plan on making one of my own soon enough. But I have a question about the seat height. I've noticed a lot of users that place the rig in front of a TV, or have their display mounted in front of them. I would be using this in conjunction to my computer desk (standard height). What is the seat height of this? I know it varies depending on seat / rails, etc, but I don't see this being near the height of my computer chair (about 15 inches).

 

Would I have to modify the base a little bit, or add some extra "fluff" to get that extra inches of height? If I'm too low, I don't believe I'll be able to have a good viewing angle on my monitors.

 

It just seems by looking at all the other finished rigs, that I'll be sitting too low.

Unfortunately kmorris, my rig does sit rather low.  My seat is about 12 inches from the ground.  You could add some height to yours if you prefer until your knees eventually hit the top pipe by an extra 4 inches.  So, I'm not sure this will be enough in your case.  The plans were design for the rig to have its own table top so placing this under your own desk will of course change the viewing angle of your display monitor. Good luck.

[RoadKill 1]

So rather than having 5-6 inches extension from edge of pipe for a wheel mount make it 8-9 inches or thereabouts.

 

Thanks Simul8r, that'll work.

[Paul GT73 1,398]

 

great looking set up simul8r, im using a epson 3900 projector on a flat wall, anyway i can get that surround look with what i got or do i need a more specialist projector, i was thinking of something simple like painting some 3.2mm hardboard and just bending it around my rig but maybe this will cause image distortion, worth a go, im gonna start a prototype, posted a picture of max image size but ican adjust this from 70" to 150"

[simul8r 114]

great looking set up simul8r, im using a epson 3900 projector on a flat wall, anyway i can get that surround look with what i got or do i need a more specialist projector, i was thinking of something simple like painting some 3.2mm hardboard and just bending it around my rig but maybe this will cause image distortion, worth a go, im gonna start a prototype, posted a picture of max image size but ican adjust this from 70" to 150"

 

Thanks Ptux, but it isn't about size behind Remco's super FOV concept.  It's about having the correct Field Of Vision (which is calculative) when sitting in the driver's seat relative to the simulated size of the vehicle as projected to the user.   Combine that with the placement of your steering wheel almost near position to the simulated wheel shown on screen and the emmersion is, well, obvious.

 

The projector that Remco Hitman is using is 1080p at 16:9 projection.  I'm using a 720p projector also at 16:9.  The width of the 'image' suggested by Remco is not a large one but of only 58 inches wide and 32 inches tall.  The image or screen just sits 3 to 4 inches behind the steering wheel which means to say that you have a hole notched out on the screen for the steering wheel to protrude from.  The projector is above angled down missing the drivers head and keystoned.  By adjusting the image you center the image right over your wheel relative to where the virtual wheel is depicted.

 

BTW, I game using rFactor and there is an adjustment for VERTICAL FOV in settings.  The calculation for correct vertical FOV is as follows:

 

Divide height of image by 2 and then divide this by the distance from eye's to screen.  Obtain the inverse TAN of this and then multiply it by 2.

 

So with the height of 32" divided by 2 = 16 divided by 26" (distance of screen to my eyes while sitting) = .62 (Inverse Tan this)  = 31.61 x 2 = 63 Vertical FOV.

 

I suppose this can also work with 16:10 projectors as well.

[Paul GT73 1,398]

thanks for your feedback, my projector is ceiling mounted now but i have full adjustment of unit tilting down to 45 degrees, and full verticle and horizontal keystone, its full hd and 3d, im gonna get on this, very inspiring looks so emersive,  i allready have projector wall paint so all i need is a sheet of 3.2mm hardboard so its worth ago, even if the image is going to distort to the edges its not like thats where im gonna be looking, id go tomorow but just remembered its xmas, how inconvenient

[Topham 1]

Hello,

 

Ive got all the mats needed and then though are the lengths that are used in the plans on page 9. Are they sizes of the actual full length pipe or not? (including the part where the pipe goes into T sections etc). Can someone confirm that the pipe measurements are total pipe length?

 

Sorry if it seems stupid question, i would rather be 100% confident before i start.

 

Regards.

Topham

[simul8r 114]

Answered your PM Topham.  The sizes for each pipe you see on the plans are the total lengths, do not add anymore.  Drop a photo of your final build if and when you can.

[Topham 1]

ive only been able to get 92.5 degree Tee's didnt realise until i had opened them. Angles causing some issues but im getting there slowly.

[Topham 1]

Im about 90% done. Seating area and wheel area drying in the spare room. Kinda messed up on one of the 45 degree part but still sturdy. Cant find any pipe clamps anywhere, can only find plastic, which aint gonna cut it. Hopefully be done tomorrow.

[Paul GT73 1,398]

Thanks Ptux, but it isn't about size behind Remco's super FOV concept.  It's about having the correct Field Of Vision (which is calculative) when sitting in the driver's seat relative to the simulated size of the vehicle as projected to the user.   Combine that with the placement of your steering wheel almost near position to the simulated wheel shown on screen and the emmersion is, well, obvious.

 

The projector that Remco Hitman is using is 1080p at 16:9 projection.  I'm using a 720p projector also at 16:9.  The width of the 'image' suggested by Remco is not a large one but of only 58 inches wide and 32 inches tall.  The image or screen just sits 3 to 4 inches behind the steering wheel which means to say that you have a hole notched out on the screen for the steering wheel to protrude from.  The projector is above angled down missing the drivers head and keystoned.  By adjusting the image you center the image right over your wheel relative to where the virtual wheel is depicted.

 

BTW, I game using rFactor and there is an adjustment for VERTICAL FOV in settings.  The calculation for correct vertical FOV is as follows:

 

Divide height of image by 2 and then divide this by the distance from eye's to screen.  Obtain the inverse TAN of this and then multiply it by 2.

 

So with the height of 32" divided by 2 = 16 divided by 26" (distance of screen to my eyes while sitting) = .62 (Inverse Tan this)  = 31.61 x 2 = 63 Vertical FOV.

 

I suppose this can also work with 16:10 projectors as well.

i kinda did it with the projector,

[simul8r 114]

i kinda did it with the projector,

Interesting, what is the size of your screen because I notice the top portion overshooting to the back of your wall plus there seem to be left/right bars.  I've searched for your projector (Epson 3900) and there isn't any found.  Do you know if it's 16:9 or might it be 4:3 which is typically XGA.

 

Finally, how's the immersion so far in it's current setup?  Thanks for sharing.

[Paul GT73 1,398]

its an epson ehtw5900 i think they have a different model number outside europe, its a 1920x1080 16:9 full hd 3d lcd projector, the bar effect is where ive altered the throw ratio to make the screen wheel match the size of my wheel and its just not lighting up the hardboar screen, yes theres image on the wall but none visable from driving position, i played with taking my projector down from ceiling mount too remedy the curve at top of screen but put it back up as i watch tv and movies too, it was perfect set at a lower height and needed no keystone adjustment, screen size is 6ft by 2ft, ive posted it in the garage under 'DIY IMAX SCREEN' if you want to check it out, im chuffed with it. the seated position i have and the scale of the car is dead on the money and all i can see with my peripheral vision is rtack wizzing by, not that technical but extremely effective, thanks for your insperation

[Johnny Carr 106]

Been a while but I have been slowly working on a new viewing display for my rig. Here's a quick tease of what I copied from Remco Hitman's idea of super FOV using a 720p projector. Immersion is thru the roof IMO compared to my previous 3 LCD monitor setup. Once again Remco, thank you.

http://youtu.be/vOlCY_kXgXI

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vOlCY_kXgXI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That's awesome!!!

[simul8r 114]

its an epson ehtw5900 i think they have a different model number outside europe, its a 1920x1080 16:9 full hd 3d lcd projector, the bar effect is where ive altered the throw ratio to make the screen wheel match the size of my wheel and its just not lighting up the hardboar screen, yes theres image on the wall but none visable from driving position, i played with taking my projector down from ceiling mount too remedy the curve at top of screen but put it back up as i watch tv and movies too, it was perfect set at a lower height and needed no keystone adjustment, screen size is 6ft by 2ft, ive posted it in the garage under 'DIY IMAX SCREEN' if you want to check it out, im chuffed with it. the seated position i have and the scale of the car is dead on the money and all i can see with my peripheral vision is rtack wizzing by, not that technical but extremely effective, thanks for your insperation

Ah, that explains alot.  I take it you pretty much aligned your wheel to the game's wheel, I don't know what your gaming with or if you were able to adjust the game's FOV as I explained earlier.  As it appears, it seems your screen is further away from your wheel.  I'll post a link to Remco's set up to give you an idea of what he did.  http://isrtv.com/forums/topic/3184-tyrrell-p34-replica-cockpit/?p=36246

 

And by the way, Remco deserves the recognition to this type of setup.  I merely copied his.

[simul8r 114]

That's awesome!!!

Thanks John, really enjoying the setup.

[djmobi 6]

Hi Everyone,

 

I am looking to build a rig like this, I've watched the excellent Inside Sim Racing Youtube video on how to build the rig (and many of the other videos you guys have put up), read the posts in this thread, but I am struggling to find anyone in the UK that sells standard white piping in the sizes needed. Certainly not for the low prices you guys in America are paying.

 

I was wondering if anyone in the UK had built the Rig and if they have, can they let me know where to buy the materials from.

 

Thanks in advance

[Topham 1]

hello DJmobi,

 

im from manchester and i got all my tubing from Wickes and all the connectors too, but becareful as u will have to improvise abit from the plans as the connectors are a little iffy. Total cost £80. Where abouts are you from?

 

You can follow the pipe lengths but will need to do some jigsaw puzzling from there on

[djmobi 6]

Im based in Banbury.......I have checked their site and I could only find thin wall tubing but I will have another look. Might just pop down the shop and ask. 

 

Cheers amte

[Topham 1]

you need Solvent weld pipe. Am i allowed to post where and what i got?

[dragracer 5]

you need Solvent weld pipe. Am i allowed to post where and what i got?

You will be fine sharing that info helping each other is the point of this thread right simul8r   still loving my mk1 rig for over a year now.

[SHKDWN 0]

can someone send me the plan cuz i can't seem to be able to open the png file!? thx

[Alvin Nieves 2]

Just want to post some improvements that I have made to my rig. I recently got a G27 and also wanted to have the mouse and keyboard on a more comfortable place for me. Given the space constraint on my left side of the room I had to put them on the top right part. I decided to then place the keyboard below the steering wheel and do a two step mount on the right for the shifter and the mouse. This is the final product of it. Once spring hits the painting will begin.