Simon Kilov 42 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Is it allowed to use all the green here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Søvik 62 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Is it allowed to use all the green here? I think that may be the maximum, and that you may not use the green. I believe all of them are supposed to show just how much track you can use and that you may not use any more than that seen on the pictures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dennis Phelan 17 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Those are the rules and the interpretation that we run by but as an old motorcylce roadracer, I think the white line rule is all that's needed. Great job explaining by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Navarro 282 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 No, no, no! Look at T13 exit. You can use all of the green AstroTurf, but may not have the full part any wheel beyond. The answer to Simon is YES. 6.3.2 However, where there is kerbing/astroturf/concrete which you may use (which will be described in the race briefing often with attached screenshots), two wheels do not have to be within the outer edge of the white lines in this instance. However, in the case of this extra kerbing/astroturf/concrete, you may not run the full part of any of your wheels beyond those designated areas. Here is another example of being within the TPS track boundaries: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Shepherd 53 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Hello. Is there no "Live Timing" for drivers practice laps from within the TPS server ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Wiesenmüller 794 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/789/atccspotterr3hungaro.png Spotter guide for round 3. I used the standings without dropped scores for this round, it will be including dropped scores for the next round. I hate dropped scores a lot 7 different car models in group 1, nice work guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Dyrelund 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 For clarity, I understand that all this astroturf-riding is only allowed because it is now shown here. If there was no instruction the basic "white-line-rule" would have been the rule. 6.3.2 is an exception, the text being: "However, where there is kerbing/astroturf/concrete which you may use (which will be described in the race briefing often with attached screenshots),......." Looking forward to watch the live transmission with the exceptional good commentators Best from Peter D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Navarro 282 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 For clarity, I understand that all this astroturf-riding is only allowed because it is now shown here. If there was no instruction the basic "white-line-rule" would have been the rule. 6.3.2 is an exception, the text being: "However, where there is kerbing/astroturf/concrete which you may use (which will be described in the race briefing often with attached screenshots),......." Looking forward to watch the live transmission with the exceptional good commentators Best from Peter D Peter, It is always allowed. The parenthetical statement says the race briefing will "describe" the kerbing/astroturf/concrete used on the particular track, not redefine the rules for each race. It's always been very consistent and the race briefing and screenshots are just there as reminders to reinforce the rule and identify any ambiguity about the textures used. Ivan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Navarro 282 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Hello. Is there no "Live Timing" for drivers practice laps from within the TPS server ? ? Unfortunately, not for Race07. I've seen 53 flat! So we should see a 52 in quali /me thinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Hoppitt 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Two wheels on the racing surface has always worked just fine for me, but diffent sand pit means different rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Kilov 42 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Unfortunately, not for Race07. I've seen 53 flat! So we should see a 52 in quali /me thinks. i think we see a 51 in qual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Callan 2,576 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 RACE does not support live timing like rFactor and GSC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Dyrelund 1 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Hi Ivan Ok, but that means that the text in my view is not perfect English. It implies that there may be kerbing/astroturf/concrete that you may not use (to be precised at the briefing). And that is also what is shown in the examples, where the rules are not the same for kerbs, astroturf and concrete. You are not allowed to substitute the white lines for the kerbs (if these are the only things adjacent to the white lines). You are allowed to run with all four wheels on the astroturf. And you are not allowed to run a single wheel on the concrete. Best regards Peter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Toby Davis Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Basically, the overriding rule is some part of two wheels within the white lines at all times. In some cases, there is kerbing and even further textures beyond the kerbing that it is allowed to use. They will be specified before every event (with the words 'kerbing is defined by the red and white textures, and the green astroturf beyond in T1, T4 and T7,' for example). In this instance, it is allowed to use that kerbing and extra textures right up to the edge, thus having 4 wheels outside of the white lines, but you may not run beyond them. I don't see what's unclear about that really, but there we go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luis Fernandes 33 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Hi guys. Unfortunately i won´t be able to race later. A work incident that needs a very urgent solution... have fun those who will race. Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Navarro 282 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Based on reported absences, Alexander Lauritzen (D1) Robert Isles (D2) Luis Fernandes (D2) Jim Eagan (D2) are out. Ray Lilley has been promoted into Division 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Navarro 282 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Race thread server allocations have been updated http://isrtv.com/forums/topic/6744-atcc5-round-3-hungaroring-14122012/'>HERE. Race thread also has posted screenies showing examples of track boundaries. Make sure you know the rules before you join the race! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Navarro 282 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Cutting during Quali will be penalized as there is much time to be gained in many places. Suggestion: If you know you took too much space, such that you know it's a cut that gained time, you can back off on your Hot Lap and give yourself a grid spot penalty by giving back the time (make sure it's obvious!). This will avoid the points penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
William Levesque 157 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Still talk about white lines and astroturf ? Hehe Good luck guys tonight ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim Eagan 2 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Nope, still feeling quite ill. If this gives me one strike, I'll take it. See you next round. Good luck, gentlemen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lasse Sorensen 10 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Navarro 282 Report post Posted December 14, 2012 Sorensen out, Rhys Gardiner promoted to D1. (Rhys reaches goal ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lasse Sorensen 10 Report post Posted December 15, 2012 Sorry but i can not race today becuse my network is down im really sorry about this Ivan but there is nothing i can do about it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Lilley 140 Report post Posted December 15, 2012 Oh dear. More embarrassment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Jundt 187 Report post Posted December 15, 2012 Oh dear. C200 feels like driving an expensive trashbin around the track. Gonna be nowhere again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites