AP Electrix Load Cell Mod for the Logitech G27 Pedals, Insta

[LowHungFuzzyDice 32]

The Nixim mod is simply a stiffer spring with a piece of rubber type of material that keeps the spring from collapsing in on itself.

 

The AP Load Cell is just that, a load cell. The concept of a load cell is pretty simply this... The harder you press it, the more electrical resistance it builds up. This feeling is similar that of a real car brake.

 

The perfect pedal works under the same concept as the load cell, but it's a passive device. It's simply like a large shock absorber that passes fluid from the bottom of the barrel to the top as the shock moves from the top position to the bottom. As the oil compressor tighter against the bottom of the barrel, the more resistance you'll feel. You can adjust the feel by using different weights of oil.

 

Hope this brief explanation helps explain how they work. There are also ISR shows that cover all 3 of these products you can find on youtube.

[Michael Howe 3]

Thanks for the reply. I have already watched all 3 videos from ISR. I'm familiar with how the 3 operate but I'm still unsure which of the two affordable mods is better. Both the Nixim and AP got a 10 on the rev scale. I was hoping to hear from someone who has used both that could offer an opinion as to which they prefer.

[Speedyd 0]

Thanks for the reply. I have already watched all 3 videos from ISR. I'm familiar with how the 3 operate but I'm still unsure which of the two affordable mods is better. Both the Nixim and AP got a 10 on the rev scale. I was hoping to hear from someone who has used both that could offer an opinion as to which they prefer.

 

Michael,

I had Nixim V1 (rubber piece only) and liked it.  I decicded to try the AP Electrix mod (for the load cell experience) and I personally thought the travel was too short and too hard to press to achieve the desired output.  I think the biggest issue I faced with the AP mod was that I did not like the lack of pedal travel.  I tried to get used to it over a few months and I still did not like it.  I sold the AP mod and decided to try another solution by e-speed.co (http://e-speed.co/E-SPeed__Home_Page.html).  This new mod is basically a spring replacement with the addition of some shims to adjust preload on the brake spring.   The kit also includes new clutch and throttle springs (with shims as well).  I like the changes the e-speed mod does to the throttle and clutch (very short travel), however the brake pedal fels progressive and the efforts get quite high to achieve close to full travel.  I need to spend more time with the e-speed mod and play with the calibration the set-up.  I have been thinking of trying out the Nixim Mod V2 to see how it compares to the the e-speed mod. 

[Webbmark 0]

Is there any way to increase travel on the pedal?

[sherpa 0]

That's funny you say that, @Webbmark, because the travel in my DFGT's brakes is too long!  Is the brake travel on the G27 too short, or only with this mod?  I'm asking because I'm planning on upgrading to the G27 as one of my options.

[Gunstar 615]

That's funny you say that, @Webbmark, because the travel in my DFGT's brakes is too long!  Is the brake travel on the G27 too short, or only with this mod?  I'm asking because I'm planning on upgrading to the G27 as one of my options.

Have you tried the "Squash Ball Mod" sherpa? It's where you get a dense foam ball and just kind of smoosh it down into the brake pedal area.

 

[sherpa 0]

Have you tried the "Squash Ball Mod" sherpa? It's where you get a dense foam ball and just kind of smoosh it down into the brake pedal area.

 

 

 

 

Hi Gunstar, Sorry I just saw this, as I didn't get any email notification.  

 

Yes, I've tried that, but the problem with this is it prevented the brakes from engaging 100% because of the thin material underneath the brakes.  At full press, I estimate it registers only around 90% or so, but not 100%.  And this is with soft foam cut to some triangular shape.  So I removed it and tried the Bungee cord trick w/c worked fine for pressure, but it didn't solve the issue w/ 'length of travel'.  I wonder what the length of travel is on the G27 brakes, compared to the DFGT brake travel.

[Krassi 692]

Hi Gunstar, Sorry I just saw this, as I didn't get any email notification.  

 

Yes, I've tried that, but the problem with this is it prevented the brakes from engaging 100% because of the thin material underneath the brakes.  At full press, I estimate it registers only around 90% or so, but not 100%.  And this is with soft foam cut to some triangular shape.  So I removed it and tried the Bungee cord trick w/c worked fine for pressure, but it didn't solve the issue w/ 'length of travel'.  I wonder what the length of travel is on the G27 brakes, compared to the DFGT brake travel.

I think that the travel is the same +- few mm ...but the construction is very different and pedals felt completely different, like day and night....you can at least buy G25/G27 pedals to your DFGT and with wiring you will see huge difference

[Webbmark 0]

And my loadcell died, not giving any response on the Logitech calibration software...

[c4rLo5 5]

https://www.tekscan.com/products-solutions/force-sensors/a201

 

You'll need the 25lbs or 111N in the shortest length.