The Unofficial OSW owners thread (aka osw owners share your pics)

[frapster 186]

Nah, I'm sure they just meant there should be no limitations regarding USB ports, if you use powered hubs. There's no way to combine separate USB devices into one using a USB hub. There are some ways to unite several devices into one though, using various adapters or even direct wiring, but only makes sense if a game demands that for one reason or another. When I had Fanatec setup, all my fanatec devices (wheel/pedals/shifter) and some non-fanatec shifters were all connected as a single USB device. In certain older games of course you have the limitation of 3 controllers, and like WRC6 type of games that dont' support multiple devices (which IMO means they aren't good and best to ignore them :)), but that's the only good reasoning to limit number of controllers

I have plenty of ports and i tried a number of powered hubs, sometimes some devices still find an issue using them hubs, so they prefer the direct port connectivity. However these are probably not as common an issue as it used to be, at least for me, esp after i got rid of Fanatec base, which did not like any other connection but direct.

Simu-cube shoudl be fairly straightforward to wire buttons/axis to, because this is exposed via CAT-5 ports, I didn't do the pedals myself, but wiring switches/buttons was fairly easy.
I'd assume argon has that discovery board, whcih I guess is harder to wire to, because it might not be exposed via a wired port and you need to open up the case and solder stuff?

I currently have 7 game controllers connected, as well as many other USB devices. Most crucial devices like simucube/pedals etc are connected direct, but there's also a hub for SLI/button boxes, basherboards shifter adapater, wheel's SLI etc

 

[Tummie555 1]

Thank you Frapster. I will no longer be concerned about the amount of ports, nor will I upgrade the disco, and as far as WRC 6 / FH3 goes, they can either make it compatible or not, depending on their urge to win some extra customers. It isn't the setup that needs to change. Okay got it, thanks everyone for replying!

[Devil Inc 8]

Ordered that 12+1 USB hub from Massdrop today. Also, ordered my encoder for my resolver to encoder swap project. I should have that mid-week next week. Still need to work on the wiring in my box, hope to get that done this weekend and work on getting firmware updated/installed.

[Timracer 1]

@Devil Inc looking forward to read your impressions. Also considering the OSW route.

[Devil Inc 8]

2 hours ago, Timracer said:

@Devil Inc looking forward to read your impressions. Also considering the OSW route.

I'll be burning up the forum, I'm sure. Looks like my encoder should be here tomorrow, shooting for a weekend power up. Fingers crossed. 

[Devil Inc 8]

Well, that sucked! Got the resolver off, in many pieces, but it's off and waiting for my encoder. 

[Devil Inc 8]

Well, that looks a lot better.

[Spinelli 61]

Hi, Large Mige / IONI Pro HC owner here.  I've been out of the scene for a solid 4 or 5 months.  Is there anything I should know about regarding hardware or software?  I'm guessing there's been updates to a lot of the software/drivers/firmware?  I have a new PC and nothing is installed at all.

I hope there's been updates to allow more customizing of wheel behavior and overall refinement to the way the OSWs output forces.

[Devil Inc 8]

2 hours ago, Spinelli said:

Hi, Large Mige / IONI Pro HC owner here.  I've been out of the scene for a solid 4 or 5 months.  Is there anything I should know about regarding hardware or software?  I'm guessing there's been updates to a lot of the software/drivers/firmware?  I have a new PC and nothing is installed at all.

I hope there's been updates to allow more customizing of wheel behavior and overall refinement to the way the OSWs output forces.

Hey Spinelli, there have been some updates, especially in the Ioni/Simucube sector. If you have an iRacing account there a few dedicated threads that are pretty popular. My build is Argon based so development has been pretty stale, since the inception of the Ioni based systems. 

[rocafella1978 4]

->  to experienced OSw users and electric guru's. how do i best ground a servo or my hardware? to avoid EMI issues?

thank you all.

[Devil Inc 8]

What kind of rig is your setup bolted to? Easiest way is to simply run a wire from the servo back to the drive enclosure. If you're on a metal rig, you could use that as a means of running a ground back to the enclosure. 

[RaceNut 40]

On 10/19/2016 at 8:45 AM, Tummie555 said:

Hi Devil, I hope you're right about the lack of lag! I have to agree I didn't notice the USB devices having an impact in any game, but Dirt definitely doesn't like MMos. I had to dail down a significant amount of graphical settings after the OSW got installed, and when changing MMos values while in that specific game, MMos does this latency thing where the values keep going up or down for a second after you let go of the mouse button. This doesn't happen with other games, but that's another story. 

About connecting to the Disco board, that does make a lot of sense now that I'm using my brain. But this also suggest that argon, ionic and simucube shouldn't differ on this front, which is not the feeling I got after reading the pro's from simucube... I thought I read somewhere that pedals and shifters could easily connect to the simucube, presented as an advantage over the other two. Please forgive any thinking errors for it's all very new to me and there's a lot of information to absorb!

 

It's possible that the FFB can compete with graphics / physics for CPU duties; in some titles, changing the FFB-Skip-Steps setting can prioritize the work-load required more efficiently; I'm not sure about DR but, it can be done in AC and AMS to smooth things out. To my understanding, ideally, such duties would be split among different CPU-cores but, that has to be designed and programmed into the game by developers and not all wheels work the same way as DD where the FFB API is concerned so support is not always including what is best for DD-wheels.

[Frank Zappa 17]

Hi where can i find the best price for an OSW base im in western Canada? Not sure if i am ready to pull the trigger but i would like to crunch some numbers on a base config, even a small Mige would be great i really need to keep costs to the min if possible :/. Though the Mige size/price looks to be affordable so i could possibly go larger. Thx in advance i figured this would be a good forum to stop at before shop.

[Devil Inc 8]

I would consider a small Mige paired with a Simucube setup, honestly not sure on a good source for Canada. I don't know if anyone is selling from within Canada. 

Are you on iRacing? If so, post in one the Simucube thread in the Hardware board and I'm sure someone will chime in. 

 

[sebj 616]

No one in Canada. In US or Europe though. Likely around $1600 CDN after all in. Or build yourself. It's simple no Soldering required 

I built mine for less than $1100

[Spinelli 61]

Large Mige owner here.  Ollie is the man.  - https://sim-pli.city/
Having said that, I believe the Simucube setup is a few hundred cheaper in the end but I don't think he has that yet.

[Andrew_WOT 66]

Tommo (simracingbay), Ollie (both EU)

Joe Sullivan (slingshot666 here) (USA)

[SteveS 1,391]

Hi, I'm wondering how much interest there is for this style of OSW quick release hub. It supports 50mm & 52mm hole pattern and 70mm will also be offered. I'm expecting the price to be around $90. A beta version should be ready next week.

[Andrew_WOT 66]

Is it similar to http://simuhack.com/product/mige-130st-quick-release-2-3dqr/

There are some disadvantages in having wheel hub mounted in fixed position (key location) as center index offset can be pretty big.

 

[SteveS 1,391]

Thank you Andrew. I don't think the key way is required, I just included because it does not increase the cost. I'm also working on another style of quick release which bolts onto a standard hub.

 

[JonnyK 8]

I would be happy to have more quick release options, but cost is certainly a consideration.  I priced it out, and to get a Q1R setup it would cost me about $300 Canadian dollars (to support two wheels).  That's quite a lot.  If you can provide an alternative that functions well for less then I'm interested.

[challenger1 3]

OK! If some of you were to order your OSW setup all over again. what would you get at this very moment? In otherwords, knowing what you know now would you change things up a bit? Cant seem to get off this fence!!!

[Aqib 99]

If I was buying one now I would buy a Mige with 10K encoder with a Simcube. Currently I have a Lenze with an Argon but only because I got a really good deal second hand.

[frapster 186]

I have a simucube/big mige setup and probably would still pick the same now

regarding very budget friendly Quick Release solution, if like me you have moire than 1-3 rims, this was my choice. yes, its simple and not as quck' but cost me hundreds less (for x4 of them) than the most popular in sims QR is and in terms of functionality its perfectly  good. works with mige shafts

http://simuhack.com/product/mige-130st-quick-release-2-3dqr/

[stevemontuno 172]

I'm going to be ordering an OSW after Christmas ,,,,,, What's the difference between the small and large mige ,,, does the large have much advantage over the small ,,?

Also @frapster did your mige mount bolt directly on to your ally profile or did you have to make a plate to fit it?