The Unofficial OSW owners thread (aka osw owners share your pics)

[jimmyhigh 187]

NEW OWNERS, WELCOME!

If you purchased a kit from a fellow sim racer or had someone build you one, or are just curious about OSW, check out part 1 of the starter guide:

 

 

UPDATE JUNE 2016: Professional Driver tries out OSW and gives Impressions. Direct Drive Life Channel is created. =D

 

Who's rocking an open sim wheel and wants to flaunt their sweet setup in a new thread?

UPDATED THIS INITIAL POST WITH VIDEOS SEEN IN THE THREAD FOR THOSE OF YOU JUST ARRIVING or INTERESTED. 10/6/2015

 

Yeah I know there's well over 100 posts in a few threads over on Iracing forums. Pictures and impressions are the focus here! Tell your story. 

 

JimmyHigh's Videos:

 

corvette @ bathurst /  iracing

 

 

Honda HPD prototype @ Road America - iRacing

 

 

RaceRoom Racing Experience FFB review / impressions @ Mid Ohio

 

 

Aston Martin @ Canada Tire / iRacing

https://goo.gl/photos/nJ32t5xqu52p6mzX7

 

13 Minutes of struggling with Assetto Corsa. for the patient and devoted OSW enthusiast lol

https://goo.gl/photos/9hqJrU9eWepkfwoPA

 

Aqib's video:

 

 

Videos here, updated 7 Sept 2015.

https://goo.gl/photos/H8nYK3mWr9b2vipP6


https://goo.gl/photos/Y3cvqPmJZns2pdEi9
https://goo.gl/photos/bpvqty8wj85b77hY7
https://goo.gl/photos/2SJDup3srgadHYgr7

 

 

[Thirsty 601]

I'm in the same boat...a 19.9kg box with a Lenze OSW is on the way and I'm currently designing a wheel plate with adjustable mini button boxes a bit like the Fanatec universal hub.

[Tsfc 193]

I'm nearly budgeted to order as well, and will certainly share when I build. I'm sure this will be an interesting thread, I'm excited to see people's impressions and integration into the different frames

[jimmyhigh 187]

Looks like my osw will ship out Monday if all goes as planned. Earlier than I expected!

Random question unrelated to osw pics (sorry): any of you guys plan to get a power conditioner? I'd imagine itd be a good investment. Figured I'd ask to see if anyone else is concerned with keeping the servo motors and controllers healthy getn clean electric.

[sebj 616]

I dont use one but I do run all my PC components through a UPS (APC) as it protects from surges and any spikes on the line. I use one for my projector as well and haven't had any failures on equipment over the last decade.  If the power goes out you'll also have some juice to run your equipment safely.

[Andrew_WOT 66]

Great idea.

Can we have a list of OSW builders with options offered and prices (if available).

[sebj 616]

Pre-assembled Lenze with Argon controller - 29NM

Price for EU customers: 2499€ incl. VAT and excl. shipping

Price for non-EU customers: 2299€ incl. exportduties and excl. shipping

Mount and other items extra $

http://reimer-motorsports.de/index.php/en/

 

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Full kit, no soldering required, minus the case and QR

The MiGE 130ST-M10010 (small MiGE) kit is ~1025 USD including shipping - 20NM of torque

The MiGE 130ST-M15015 (large MiGE) kit is ~1095 USD including shipping - up to 30NM of torque*

*Current state the IONI controller does not provide enough Amps to drive the large mige to full 30NM.

Peak torque of M15015 + IONI Pro should be 20Nm due to the current output limit of 12.7A rms and motor torque coefficient of 1.58 Nm/A.

Development of addon board in progress which will be sold to provide up to 30A. 

email [email protected]  

[jimmyhigh 187]

Hey seb, last I checked Dennis isnt doing mige builds at the moment. Just lenze

Looks like il be getting the arc br1300g to keep the osw and recently fixed pc safe from the house' dirty electricity.

[jimmyhigh 187]

I spent well over 2800 for the lenze kit and extras. Can't remember exactly the total. Don't want to put a price on perfection in my book though. A. I'm kinda Looney for sim racing. B. Reimer does an incredible job both with build, options, and overall communication.

Once I clean up the room that my rig is in I'll post up some preliminary pics.

Off topic once again, I've come to a cross roads with displays. Since the osw is/ can be a frantic ride when it comes to ffb, I'm wondering how much more I'll sweat, and move. Reason why its a concern of mine is because I race in oculus dk2 most of the time, lol. I'll be sure to post a video of the struggle / experience as soon as it arrives.

Still haven't made a jump to tripples, and that may not change if dk2 is a good experience with osw. Might just need to tighten of the head strap lol

[sebj 616]

I will add some separation in my previous post. If you read it by paragraph I have the Lenze separate from the MIge which Ollie builds. I got pricing for the Lenze right off the website. There are additions like a mount required for it that the MIge already includes. 

[Andrew_WOT 66]

Pre-assembled Lenze with Argon controller - 29NM

Price for EU customers: 2499€ incl. VAT and excl. shipping

Price for non-EU customers: 2299€ incl. exportduties and excl. shipping

Mount and other items extra $

http://reimer-motorsports.de/index.php/en/

 

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Full kit, no soldering required, minus the case and QR

The MiGE 130ST-M10010 (small MiGE) kit is ~1025 USD including shipping - 20NM of torque

The MiGE 130ST-M15015 (large MiGE) kit is ~1095 USD including shipping - up to 30NM of torque*

*Current state the IONI controller does not provide enough Amps to drive the large mige to full 30NM.

Peak torque of M15015 + IONI Pro should be 20Nm due to the current output limit of 12.7A rms and motor torque coefficient of 1.58 Nm/A.

Development of addon board in progress which will be sold to provide up to 30A. 

email [email protected]  

MiGE looks tempting, what is included in that kit, is it ready to run. Anyone ordered one/had a chance to compare it with AF?

[sebj 616]

You have to plug all the cables in, no soldering required, comes with instructions. You may want to buy a case for the electronics as they come individually packed. It's a sort of DIY kit. 

[oqvist 29]

It´s like building a computer pretty much. I am told it´s even simpler then building a computer actually.

 

I have ordered a small mige package from Ollie but there will be a while until I get it.

 

I am still trying to figure out a good solution for paddles. There is ascher paddles but I don´t know what controllers is plug and play with it´s connectors. Some use some bluetooth controllers but generally require soldering it seems. 

[Grumpybeard 4]

Really liking the bang per buck with the OSW, but also the turn-key solution the accuforce offers with its button box and paddles.

Grateful for any insight into the options out there for paddles and button boxes for the OSW, thanks.

[jimmyhigh 187]

Really liking the bang per buck with the OSW, but also the turn-key solution the accuforce offers with its button box and paddles.

Grateful for any insight into the options out there for paddles and button boxes for the OSW, thanks.

Ollie, or Dennis Reimer are your best options for easy to assemble solutions. They're not turn key, but they're as close as it gets. The software and firmware must be downloaded separately, but they're freeware, and Open source. OSW will never be turn key in this regard, for major legal reasons discussed in other threads.

The only downside I can see with going OSW is the added cost for getting a wheel with paddles and buttons. Those cost at least 500+ dollars, not including the wheel rim itself. See carsten filmer or Sam maxwell. The OSW is a big investment, but you'll get what you pay for.

[oqvist 29]

The usb plate is around 300$. 530$ including a momo mod 30.  There is good solid rims available for less then 100$ though if you don´t need big brand names so you definiatly don´t must to pay that much.

Still not cheap perhaps but not everybody have the DIY skills to do something of that quality. 

 

There is ways to cheapskate too and have a high functioning setup. I currently use a SRW-S1 as button plate on wheel. Rev lights and some 20+ buttons. Then you just need paddles plus a usb controller for them if you are not racing that much so you can survive on using a sequential or H-shifter. It put to much stress on my left elbow to constantly run that.

 

It really is a brilliant solution as long as you don´t see your cockpit as a work of art

 

Any idea howto solve the paddle issue without requiring to much DIY if I would decide to stick with my SRW S-1. Ideally don´t want to have to learn soldering.

How do you contact Carsten Filmer?

[Thirsty 601]

How do you contact Carsten Filmer?

 

http://www.fi-tech.net/kontakt.html

 

He's using Martin Ascher's paddle shifters.

[Leynad 1]

Dennis Reimer announced a few weeks ago, that he want quit/reduce his OSW-involvement because to time consuming besides his fulltime job. So don´t wait for the small Mige and the 45 Lenzes left could be the last ones out of this source. I tried to convince him to do the opposite, but without success  .  

[oqvist 29]

How do you contact Carsten Filmer?

 

http://www.fi-tech.net/kontakt.html

 

He's using Martin Ascher's paddle shifters.

Thanks. One thing I am curious what size rims you uses and if you wish you used a bit larger or smaller. Pretend now quick release don´t exist and you can only have one and one only.

 

I have rims from 365 mm to 280 mm. The larger the rim the easier to turn the wheel but in term of long term fatigue it seem to be about the same. It´s partly an illusion you still have to hold the same force. With the 365 mm rim you operate further from the core of your body which is not optimal either I suspect from an ergonomic point of view. I like the precision of my 320 mm but sometimes 280 mm helps with responsitivity though it hard to hold the slip angles and be precise enough. 

 

It´s all a compromise but what would you go for? Is there even any chance that if I use my 365 mm wheel I will feel that a 20 nm mige have hard time driving it? Is there as big of a difference in responsitivity on a 280 mm and 320 mm rim as there is on a mere TX? I would hope I could compensate fully by turning up the forces to really not tell much of a difference?

[Simon Maltby 185]

Don't forget that the size of wheel also affects the speed of turn.  The smaller the wheel the faster and more direct your steering will feel.  You can adjust this a bit with rotation angle, but you still get a much sharper reaction using a smaller wheel.  This is why a larger wheel is better for oval racing, where you want subtle steering movements.  F1 requires fast positive movements.

 

I have two wheels with my setup... A 320mm Momo Mod 30 and a 270mm CSW F1 (modified).  I mainly drive single seat and on road courses and very rarely use the Momo.  Mainly i'm driving the Skippy in iRacing, but even when using GT cars in PCars I still tend to use the F1 wheel.

 

As with everything in sim racing, it's a case of trying and seeing what suits your needs best.  For me a 27-30cm rim is perfect for me.  If I ever get back into ovals though I will be glad of the mod 30. 

[oqvist 29]

Don't forget that the size of wheel also affects the speed of turn.  The smaller the wheel the faster and more direct your steering will feel.  You can adjust this a bit with rotation angle, but you still get a much sharper reaction using a smaller wheel.  This is why a larger wheel is better for oval racing, where you want subtle steering movements.  F1 requires fast positive movements.

 

I have two wheels with my setup... A 320mm Momo Mod 30 and a 270mm CSW F1 (modified).  I mainly drive single seat and on road courses and very rarely use the Momo.  Mainly i'm driving the Skippy in iRacing, but even when using GT cars in PCars I still tend to use the F1 wheel.

 

As with everything in sim racing, it's a case of trying and seeing what suits your needs best.  For me a 27-30cm rim is perfect for me.  If I ever get back into ovals though I will be glad of the mod 30. 

 

You should try the 320 mm rim for the GT cars in PCars. PCars is 100 % about being smooth or the tires don´t work. I was trying to run bentley at spa with my 280 mm f1 rim but the second I I switched to my 320 mm all of a sudden I was two seconds quicker. Just couldn´t be smooth enough with the F1 rim no matter how I tried. The Mod 30 is on my radar how do you like the grip?

[Simon Maltby 185]

The Mod 30 suede is way superior to any of the cheap rims i have tried.  The shape and feel is excellent.  I know it costs a lot more than the generic wheels but you do get what you pay for.

I've had generic wheels where the top band is off center, its perfect on the Momo as you would expect.  Very comfortable rim.

[Leynad 1]

You should try the 320 mm rim for the GT cars in PCars. PCars is 100 % about being smooth or the tires don´t work. I was trying to run bentley at spa with my 280 mm f1 rim but the second I I switched to my 320 mm all of a sudden I was two seconds quicker. Just couldn´t be smooth enough with the F1 rim no matter how I tried. The Mod 30 is on my radar how do you like the grip?

 

The steering in pCars is very sensible like i´m driving with 540 DOR instead of 900 especially with GTs. The tuning options doesn´t really help with that or does somebody knows a trick? 

[Thirsty 601]

Thanks. One thing I am curious what size rims you uses and if you wish you used a bit larger or smaller. Pretend now quick release don´t exist and you can only have one and one only.

 

I have rims from 365 mm to 280 mm. The larger the rim the easier to turn the wheel but in term of long term fatigue it seem to be about the same. It´s partly an illusion you still have to hold the same force. With the 365 mm rim you operate further from the core of your body which is not optimal either I suspect from an ergonomic point of view. I like the precision of my 320 mm but sometimes 280 mm helps with responsitivity though it hard to hold the slip angles and be precise enough. 

 

It´s all a compromise but what would you go for? Is there even any chance that if I use my 365 mm wheel I will feel that a 20 nm mige have hard time driving it? Is there as big of a difference in responsitivity on a 280 mm and 320 mm rim as there is on a mere TX? I would hope I could compensate fully by turning up the forces to really not tell much of a difference?

You cover the whole range with your wheel collection - that's great:-)

If there wasn't the button issue, huh?

I decided going for a 300mm wheel and I want to use that for all cars initially. It's a good compromise I believe.

Later on I want to get a formula wheel as well. The Fanatec would do me nicely, just gotta get the button issue fixed.

I got a 330mm Momo Mod78 which is a beautifully built wheel, but I fnd it a bit large...not sure what to do with it.

The button plate I wanna get built by Carsten Filmer will be adjustable so in case I change my mind it will fit the Momo.

Judging by what I read I wouldn't be concerned about the wheel being too large for an OSW...plenty of torque:-)

Gotta get on the plane...cheers

[jimmyhigh 187]

Those looking to save $ might consider these. They take about a week to ship. They're Italian, and I've had the black 300mm wheel for 4 months now. 

I think as an "all rounder" the 300mm is a really nice wheel. One thing I really like about it is that its very light, especially compared to the budget wheels going for a similar price. Stay away from NRG wheels. They're lopsided and are made of cheap / fake leather and or suede. The weight of the wheel WILL make a huge difference. The Sportline 300mm actually helped bring out a bit more details on my t500, since the stock rim is heavier. on the t300 it feels pretty much the same, but better since its suede. Keep in mind if you plan to use these with a non-direct drive wheel for the moment, and the wheel you choose is heavier than the stock rim, some noticeable detail may seem lost, because of added weight and inertia on the rim. 

I certainly cant say the sportline is better, or even as good as a MOMO or sparco, but the suede IS high quality, and the shape is robust, looks cool, fits my skinny large hands well, and is a nice choice in 300mm, which serves as kind of an in-between from open wheelers and Gt cars. 

 

The third link posted is the 330mm model. 

All these wheels come with a 70mm bolt pattern. 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sport-Line-Racing-Steering-Wheel-300mm-Competition-Black-Suede-Red-Stripe-/191588575678?hash=item2c9b91a9be&vxp=mtr

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sport-Line-Racing-Steering-Wheel-300mm-Competition-Red-Suede-Yellow-Stripe-/141633489983?hash=item20fa038c3f&vxp=mtr

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sport-Line-Racing-Steering-Wheel-330mm-Runner-Black-Suede-Yellow-Stripe-20126-S-/141156584658?hash=item20dd968cd2&vxp=mtr

 

I'm looking into getting a 270mm wheel once the OSW arrives. Likely I'll go with MOMO. Its just rough to spend 220$+ sometimes, so given my past hesitations, I wanted to share these links for those passing through looking for a nice alternative and who need a bit of a testimonial from a fellow user. 

 

 

Oh, and hey guys, this may sound like odd news considering I'm an active Oculus iracer, and had little need for tripples, but...I got tripples yesterday. They're 27" ACER. 60hz. 1080p. Basic. Work great. 

I got them because I wanted to have some better experiences in games that DONT run well, or just suck to navigate in rift, which include: Pcars, RRRE, and AC.