Logitech DFGT Modding tips.

[Biskut Crackers 0]

Hello to anybody (lol),

Anyone can give me tips on modding the DFGT's shifter paddles (buttons) and pedals?

I was thinking to mod it with Fanatec Clubsport Shifter Paddles and Fanatec Clubsport Pedals.

Is it compatible and comfortable?

Please give me yoiur opinion.

[Biskut Crackers 0]

bump.

[saroorhai 3]

You can use whatever you want on pc for pedals, as long as the game supports two controllers. You can't connect the clubsports to the DFGT to use on a console without some serious modding, which will almost certainly involve opening the wheel case and wiring the clutch pedal digitally, assuming the game you're playing lets you remap the clutch to a digital button. It's probbaly not worth it. You might can get the gas and brake to work with a usb to serial adapter if you get the pins all to match. I think Cannon guys were making one for thier pedals, but I doubt the clutch will work with the DFGT, since it is not designed for another analog axis.

I have often wondered if you can use the fanatec g25/g27 pedal adapter in reverse by adding some dual sided female ps/2 adapter and a serial cable. If the clubsports have a ps/2connection to fanatec wheels, a dual sided female ps/2 adapter plugged into the clubsports and the fanatec g25/27 pedal adapter, connected to a dual male serial cable, connected to a wheel. If this worked, it would probably only work with the g25/27 since the pin outs for the DFGT are different.

As for the paddles, I guess you can take the wheel apart and drill some holes in the plastic shifter button covers and bolt some fanatec ones on. I have seen people glueing paddles they made to those buttons.

[SirDrexl 1]

The connector on the DFGT has 7 pins, not 9 pins like a typical serial (DB9) cable. I did some searches and couldn't find such a cable, so you might have to rig up a homemade cable using the connector for the DFGT pedals.

[saroorhai 3]

My DFGT, DFP, G25, and Drivefx all have 9 pin pedal connectors.

Edit: Or do you mean the pins that are not used?

[Biskut Crackers 0]

Do you guys have any guidelines to disassemble a DFGT? I want to bolt on my Clubsport Shifter Paddles on the buttons, but afraid that I might break the internal wiring of the wheel.

Does the DFGT support Cannon pedals? Because at simracingtonight Shaun said that it can be combined with a set of high-end pedals and then a picture of Cannon pedals pops up. Care to explain?

[saroorhai 3]

The Cannon guy posted and said they were working on an adapter for thier pedals to work with the g25/27 and/or DFGT, the point of which is compatibility with the ps3.

As for what Shaun said in the review, I belive he meant using a high end set on pc as two controllers. Rfactor, Iracing, and most other well known sims allow you to use two (or more?) controllers. What I mean is you can plug in your dfgt, with no pedals attached, and use it for steering and shifting. Then you can connect some clubsports or Cannon pedals directly to your pc via usb and use them for gas, brake and clutch. the pedals will not be connected to the wheel this way. At the time of the review I don't think there was any way of connecting any high end set of pedals to the DFGT with modding.

As for the paddles, check this thread

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125801

[Biskut Crackers 0]

The Cannon guy posted and said they were working on an adapter for thier pedals to work with the g25/27 and/or DFGT, the point of which is compatibility with the ps3.

As for what Shaun said in the review, I belive he meant using a high end set on pc as two controllers. Rfactor, Iracing, and most other well known sims allow you to use two (or more?) controllers. What I mean is you can plug in your dfgt, with no pedals attached, and use it for steering and shifting. Then you can connect some clubsports or Cannon pedals directly to your pc via usb and use them for gas, brake and clutch. the pedals will not be connected to the wheel this way. At the time of the review I don't think there was any way of connecting any high end set of pedals to the DFGT with modding.

As for the paddles, check this thread

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125801

Seen that thread before. Although they didn't show how to assemble the paddles step-by-step in detail. (Excuse my lack of D.I.Y. skills ).

Didn't really care about the pedals though. Just wanted to know if I can link my DFGT with other set of pedals.

Thanks for help. Though I still need guidance to mod the shifter paddles on the DFGT. I'm afraid I might break it. (All that hard earned money!!! )

[SirDrexl 1]

My DFGT, DFP, G25, and Drivefx all have 9 pin pedal connectors.

Edit: Or do you mean the pins that are not used?

My DFGT has the serial connector, but it only has 7 pins. Where pins 1 and 5 would go, the pins are missing. On the wheel base, the socket where you plug in the pedals has no holes for those 2 pins. So, if you used a standard serial cable, you would have to either pull out the 2 pins, or drill little holes in the socket on the wheel where the pins go. I guess drilling the holes would be better since any future serial cables would then work.

Does yours actually have 9 pins (and 9 holes on the wheel base)?

[saroorhai 3]

My DFGT has the serial connector, but it only has 7 pins. Where pins 1 and 5 would go, the pins are missing. On the wheel base, the socket where you plug in the pedals has no holes for those 2 pins. So, if you used a standard serial cable, you would have to either pull out the 2 pins, or drill little holes in the socket on the wheel where the pins go. I guess drilling the holes would be better since any future serial cables would then work.

Does yours actually have 9 pins (and 9 holes on the wheel base)?

No, my dfp and dfgt do not. You were right, my mistake.

The g25 does have 9 pins and 9 holes both for the shifter and pedals, so I guess the idea I was thinking of with the fanatec adapter might still be possible with g25/27. I did not think it would have worked on DFGT/DFP anyway because the pin outs are set differently.

[SirDrexl 1]

Maybe the 2 extra pins on the G25/27 are for the clutch pedal?

[saroorhai 3]

Maybe the 2 extra pins on the G25/27 are for the clutch pedal?

Everything I have found has said is that the DFGT/DFP or Black Momo use all the pinouts, and the g25/27's don't. Looks like DFGT uses 7 and G25 uses 6. I'm not sure how it works exactly, since there are two pins for both throttle and brake, power, and two grounds for throttle and brake with DFGT. The g2/27 only have 1 ground and 1 pin per pedal, but with two power.

Also, I did not know this, but ECCI apparently has pedals to connect to the DFGT. No clutch for those as best I can tell.

http://www.ecci6000.com/6000_momo_01.htm

EDIT: They have some cables you can buy, and I am wondering if they are USB to the 7 pin serial or what they are. Learning things all the time here...

http://www.ecci6000.com/products.asp?id=4

[Biskut Crackers 0]

No, my dfp and dfgt do not. You were right, my mistake.

The g25 does have 9 pins and 9 holes both for the shifter and pedals, so I guess the idea I was thinking of with the fanatec adapter might still be possible with g25/27. I did not think it would have worked on DFGT/DFP anyway because the pin outs are set differently.

Can the distance between pedals on the ECCI pedal be adjusted? It looks too close together to me.

[racing5k 0]

There is now a place to find paddle shifters for your DFGT wheel. I loved my DFGT in all ways except the terribly small hard to reach buttons.

Quote from http://vivaf1racingleague.webs.com/ website:

psn id killik001

"All right, received these shifters today. Was a bit skeptic at first as I don't drive with manual shifting but decided to give them a go as with manual shifting you have even better control of the car you're driving (more accurate speed trough corners as you know which shift is optimal with precise timing).

Result? New personal record on Sakhir!!!! Simply love them"

Images and description below copied from http://granturgismo.com/

Take your Gran Turismo 5, F1 2010, and other driving game experience to the next level with the Dynamic Paddle Shifters for Logitech Driving Force GT steering wheels (Steering Wheel NOT INCLUDED).These CNC machined paddles require no tools or warranty voiding alterations to your steering wheel. Simply clean the area with the included alcohol pads to remove dirt and oil to ensure a lasting grip for the self adheisive strips. No more missing gears in those tricky corners!

[mystvearn 0]

There is now a place to find paddle shifters for your DFGT wheel. I loved my DFGT in all ways except the terribly small hard to reach buttons.

Quote from http://vivaf1racingleague.webs.com/ website:

psn id killik001

"All right, received these shifters today. Was a bit skeptic at first as I don't drive with manual shifting but decided to give them a go as with manual shifting you have even better control of the car you're driving (more accurate speed trough corners as you know which shift is optimal with precise timing).

Result? New personal record on Sakhir!!!! Simply love them"

Images and description below copied from http://granturgismo.com/

Take your Gran Turismo 5, F1 2010, and other driving game experience to the next level with the Dynamic Paddle Shifters for Logitech Driving Force GT steering wheels (Steering Wheel NOT INCLUDED).These CNC machined paddles require no tools or warranty voiding alterations to your steering wheel. Simply clean the area with the included alcohol pads to remove dirt and oil to ensure a lasting grip for the self adheisive strips. No more missing gears in those tricky corners!

Has anyone tried this DFGT pedals or try mounting a Fanatec clubsport pedals to the DFGT?

http://www.fanatec.de/webshop/new_usa/p ... ssion=true

Would you use a bungee cord, or sponge or some sort of spring for the pedal resistance?

[Rich2086 13]

There is now a place to find paddle shifters for your DFGT wheel. I loved my DFGT in all ways except the terribly small hard to reach buttons.

Quote from http://vivaf1racingleague.webs.com/ website:

psn id killik001

"All right, received these shifters today. Was a bit skeptic at first as I don't drive with manual shifting but decided to give them a go as with manual shifting you have even better control of the car you're driving (more accurate speed trough corners as you know which shift is optimal with precise timing).

Result? New personal record on Sakhir!!!! Simply love them"

Images and description below copied from http://granturgismo.com/

Take your Gran Turismo 5, F1 2010, and other driving game experience to the next level with the Dynamic Paddle Shifters for Logitech Driving Force GT steering wheels (Steering Wheel NOT INCLUDED).These CNC machined paddles require no tools or warranty voiding alterations to your steering wheel. Simply clean the area with the included alcohol pads to remove dirt and oil to ensure a lasting grip for the self adheisive strips. No more missing gears in those tricky corners!

I love my DFGT wheel and dont find the buttons to bad but these look a nice, easy, clean mod. As I said I love my DFGT picked it up for £79 a while back the wheel is nice i really enjoy using it but the pedals let it down big time. For an entry level wheel its fantastic but id of happily spent an extra £50-70 for a better pedal/wheel bundle.

I like the look of the new Thrustmaster but its not cheap and seems silly to spend a load on a new wheel when im happy with my DFGT. Might invest in clubsports but then if i can use them on PS3 then theres not much point and im lead to believe the leo bodnar cable doesnt work on ps3 either? Sounds like if i want better pedals to use with both PS3 and PC i need a whole new set up

[mystvearn 0]

i've already bought the pedal shifters-will tell you all how they work. As for foot pedals-bought a bungee cord. Will see if this works

[mci 12]

Can someone explain how this paddles are mounted,screwed or glued or how?Can they be mounted and dismounted without damaging the wheel?Few closeup pictures would be nice also.

[Beaver_XT 0]

Extended paddles look really nice. Also they don't void your warranty because they stick to your wheel with adhesive strips (glue.... basically).

But 39.95usd to ship it to Europe is kind of steep for me as the wheel is 92 euros already. I think I can live with stick shift though.

Anyone who buy it please tell us how they work along with closeup photos will be much appreciated.

[mystvearn 0]

Must be expansive in Greece. Bought mmy DFGT for £79. USD exchange rate against GBP and EU does not favours the US. I think paypal charged me <£25. Still a lot cheaper than a £230~ G27

[Dokioto 0]

I have opened up the pedals and a took a torch to both springs on the brake pedal and stretched them. These pedals do not use coil springs if you didn't know.. I also did a few other things to smooth out the operation of the pedal and has a tad resistance to the gas pedal but I pic would explain more. Unless you have opened up your pedal and know how they work your not going to understand. Either way it has been working great.

The bungee cord technique does work, and there are places to hook it to. In the middle of the pedal there is a little "tab" (see image)

This guy has the right idea on that mod if you want to go that route:

If you feel like the other end of the bungee is moving you can make a small cut or hole in the plastic to hold it. The bungee I use is 29 cm in length without being stretched (and is hooked up just like the pic/vid).

It does get the job done

Next thing i'll be doing is getting a new potentiometer, that is much more durable then the crappy one on the brake.

For those that want to use G25/27 brakes you will need this:

http://www.leobodnar.com/products/DFPG25conn/

I'll see what I can do with the paddles I have a few ideas

[Rich2086 13]

i've already bought the pedal shifters-will tell you all how they work. As for foot pedals-bought a bungee cord. Will see if this works

Well how are the shifters?

[mystvearn 0]

Still waiting for it to arrive

[Shaun Cole 10]

I have finally found the ultimate brake mod for the DFGT. I think that many people would argue that the DFGT is one of the best wheels out there but the pedals are so bad that it nearly takes the wheel out of contention when comparing to other wheels.

This is the cure that could possibly put the DFGT on top. Enjoy!

So this is very elaborate, but it is actually very much in the right direction.

[Rich2086 13]

I have finally found the ultimate brake mod for the DFGT. I think that many people would argue that the DFGT is one of the best wheels out there but the pedals are so bad that it nearly takes the wheel out of contention when comparing to other wheels.

This is the cure that could possibly put the DFGT on top. Enjoy!

So this is very elaborate, but it is actually very much in the right direction.

I couldnt go to those lengths id start building it and then say screw it im buying clubsports.

I really love my DFGT wheel but the pedals are rubbish. After iv bought my new rig and sold my gameracer i think im going to buy a g27 off ebay and either use my dfgt wheel with g27 pedals or just use the g27 complete set.