Newbie to Sim racing

[vortex123 0]

Hey guys,

 

I've decided to take the plunge to become involved in Sim Racing after following it for over a year through youtube.

 

I will have my PC within a couple of weeks and will be joining in with iracing.

 

I was hoping i could get some advice to steering wheel rigs, im a bit confused if any of the current wheels available work with PS4 or Xbox one. I currently own a x360 however its very unlikely ill play forza with the wheel however in the future may get a next-gen console.

My budget is max £300 plus stand and have been considering the g27 or a Fanatec wheel.

 

Was hoping someone from the community can help me out as i would like to order the wheel asap

 

Thank you,

Vortex

[Gunstar 615]

The only current wheel supported on the XBOX ONE is the Thrustmaster TX ( http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_UK/products/tx-racing-wheel-ferrari-458-italia-edition ) and no existing wheels will work at all. MadCatz has a wheel announced as well that looks pretty decent. 

 

The only PS4 wheel announced (released?) is the Thrustmaster T80 Driveclub Edition ( http://www.thrustmaster.com/products/t80-driveclub-edition ) but there is a fair amount of hope that the T500RS will see lots of support from developers, although Sony themselves has said that the T500RS isn't officially supported on PS4. Apparently T500RS will work on Driveclub, so we'll see how that goes.

[CaTaPulT 658]

To be honest, it's slowly getting to the point where consoles are becoming a thing of the past, now days with smart phones, tablets, a lot of people are playing games on those.

And then you get Microsoft and Sony being hell bent on pissing off people by having to buy new wheels / peripherals to play on their consoles instead of making their consoles being able to use the same hardware as previous versions, they think we are all rich?

I had purchased a PS4 in Feb, after 2 days, I returned it in exchange for another PS3, I more or less assumed the PS4 would be everything a PS3 is and more..... WRONG!!!!!.

The damned thing couldn't even play MP3's, all it was is a gaming system, was pretty much useless for anything else, where as the PS3 is like a entertainment system, it can do games, music, video and other stuff the PS4 couldn't do. So as far as I'm concerned, the PS4 is a giant leap backwards from the PS3, all it has is more horsepower for games but nothing else.

The PS3 is the last console I will ever own. Sony and MS can lick my left nut on the way to kissing my a$$.

Take care

 

Regards:  >>>> Jack <<<<

[PaulG 79]

To be honest, it's slowly getting to the point where consoles are becoming a thing of the past, now days with smart phones, tablets, a lot of people are playing games on those.

And then you get Microsoft and Sony being hell bent on pissing off people by having to buy new wheels / peripherals to play on their consoles instead of making their consoles being able to use the same hardware as previous versions, they think we are all rich?

I had purchased a PS4 in Feb, after 2 days, I returned it in exchange for another PS3, I more or less assumed the PS4 would be everything a PS3 is and more..... WRONG!!!!!.

The damned thing couldn't even play MP3's, all it was is a gaming system, was pretty much useless for anything else, where as the PS3 is like a entertainment system, it can do games, music, video and other stuff the PS4 couldn't do. So as far as I'm concerned, the PS4 is a giant leap backwards from the PS3, all it has is more horsepower for games but nothing else.

The PS3 is the last console I will ever own. Sony and MS can lick my left nut on the way to kissing my a$$.

Take care

 

Regards:  >>>> Jack <<<<

 

It makes sense though. Consoles came into being because computer power was really expensive. And to have somebody who could spend a ton of money on R&D, and then subsidize that hardware so that a large install base could be built, those were two incredibly important traits. Developers got a large install base to sell their games to, hardware builders got a royalty cut on all software, and the consumer got cutting edge technology and rock bottom prices. As computing power became more and more commoditized, the whole purpose faded away and we're left doing it solely out of tradition at this point. You basically get all of the restrictions that always went with consoles, but very few benefits anymore.

[vortex123 0]

thank you for explaining thata makes sense now.

 

Ok moving away from the console side as even though i havent played sim racing on a PC i've heard its great. What would be the best wheel i could get for my budget?

 

Im from the UK,

G27 appears to cost around £210,

fanatec csr wheel plus elite pedals would cost me £300

 

Im not too keen buying second hand as i wouldnt be sure what faults to look out for and qualities to look for.

 

Therefore guess my question is, is the fanatec wheel worth the extra money or is there any other wheels you would suggest for my budget (£300)

 

Thanks,

Dan

[UNKLE 1,429]

I really like my two PS3's and still do to this day, it came very close to an all in one entertainment machine for those who couldn't afford a decent computer.  As you said Jack everything seems to have taken a step backwards and it isn't the first time that has happened.  Just compare the first big brick Xbox (which I loved) to Xbox One.  If it wasn't for the openness of the first Xbox we wouldn't have XBMC today.

[UNKLE 1,429]

If I was buying today I'd get a TX and then get some really good load cell/hydraulic pedals.  There's so many more options for modding and upgrading with the TX compared to Fanatec.

[CaTaPulT 658]

I have to agree with UNKLE, if you can afford a TX wheel, that might be your best bet, otherwise the G27 is a fantastic deal for the money, it's probably the best bang for the sim racing buck out there.

Both the TX wheel and G27 are mod'able.

Good luck in whatever you choose and have fun.

Take care

 

Regards:  >>>> Jack <<<<

[rotemcohen 1]

Hey guys. I use a DFGT and very satisfied with it (I stuck a piece of foam under the brake pedal and it works great), though it's my 1st and only wheel so I've got nothing to compare it to.

 

With that said, I know that the g27 is a whole inch smaller in diameter... it seems to me like it's a bit toyish in that way. (yes, I'm saying that IMO "size matters") The DFGT is already smaller than a real racing wheel, so... I find it kind of odd that people say that g27 is "best bang for your buck". I think that the DFGT answers to that defintion.

 

Your thoughts?

[UNKLE 1,429]

Well you can buy a wheel adapter for the G27 and fit an aftermarket wheel on it.  For modding you can't beat the G27 and T500

 

The new Fanatec hub looks like a great solution too at a good price.

[Bunford 6]

thank you for explaining thata makes sense now.

Ok moving away from the console side as even though i havent played sim racing on a PC i've heard its great. What would be the best wheel i could get for my budget?

Im from the UK,

G27 appears to cost around £210,

fanatec csr wheel plus elite pedals would cost me £300

Im not too keen buying second hand as i wouldnt be sure what faults to look out for and qualities

I recently bought a second hand Logitech G25. Got it from CeX online as it comes with a 12 month warranty (even though second hand) and only cost me £90 too. Works faultlessly and is like new as they fully and thoroughly test everything and only take in items that are in as new condition. Can't go wrong with that!

https://uk.webuy.com/product.php?sku=SACCPS3LOGG25001A#.U53iLqy9KSM

[claykeedee 35]

Didn't want to make a new topic.

 

Just wondering, what is the difference between the T300RS and T300GTE coming out for PS4?

 

I read this article: http://www.isrtv.com/thrustmaster/thrustmaster-unveils-t300-ferrari-gte-wheel-pedals/ and fail to understand whether it is merely an aesthetic difference or if there is a performance/feel/size difference between the two wheels?

 

I guess another way to ask what I'm asking is does this description indicate the wheels are the same or that they are not...it at first is presented as if they are but then I get confused because of "but" and then more confused as to whether "but" is referring to just the 7/10 replica point or also to the next point and what this all means:

 

The wheel shares the same technology found in the T300RS but this time in a 7/10 replica of the Ferrari 458 Challenge steering wheel.  That means it utilizes the brushless FFB motor with a 1080 degree dual-belt system from the Thrustmaster TX.

[claykeedee 35]

Does anybody know the answer to my question? Thanks a lot.

[Khyber 190]

nothing just a different rim as it states and shows

[claykeedee 35]

Thanks there also isn't an options nor ps nor share button on this one I notice but it does look very attractive.

[HatlessChimp 13]

The only difference between the T300 RS and GTE is the Wheel. One has the PS4 logo and playstation labeled buttons and the GTE is a ferrari replica wheel. I got the T300 RS GTE and purchased the F1 wheel seperate that fits the T500 RS as well. 

 

Get the F1 wheel for iRacing.

 

Here is the GTE Wheel

 

I had more control with the F1 wheel and I love the extra buttons.

 

 

 

The  T300 RS Wheel is a remarkable steering wheel. It has all the good features of the T500 RS and its own, like brushless motors and internal memory. Improvement is expected when a new updated model is released and the T300 RS Wheel Base has been! But does the the T300 RS pedals get the job done?

 

The T300 RS pedals will do an Ok job for PS4 but forget about using these pedals if your going to be using them for PC racing sims. They have no clutch and the unrealistic soft feel is disgusting and caused me many accidents from over and under braking. I did eventually get to  the stage where i accepted them for what they are until my Fanatec Clubsport v2 pedals arrived and automatically shaved 3 to 4 seconds off my laptimes and improved my consistency and this was without even adjusting the Clubsport pedals. The Logitech are ok once they have had the brake mod upgrade but lack a bit of class but I still felt the t300 rs had more accuracy once you got used to them but if you are to persist with them then you need to upgrade the brake actuation resistence.

I think Thrustmaster have resigned to the fact that that most pc sim racers are buying the Fanatec Clubsport pedals and throwing away their Thrustmaster pedals. So by pairing these cheap T300 pedals it allows thrustmaster to compete with the Logitech G27 at a similar price range and distance themselves from the Fanatec Clubsport wheel.

The T300 RS paired with the Clubsport v2 pedals will be more than enough for most sim rigs.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noURTNqtASw

[HatlessChimp 13]

Been busy with work interstate and friends hogging the seat LOL but here is some videos and photos of where my rig is at. 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W7ABWkxRzM

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDgdhyokTAw