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#1 NickMoxley

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 03:52 PM

Hey Guys, Finally a compilation of what i came from and where at right now. There's been many guys over the years who have helped with small thing's to Big thing's and want to thank them all the utmost. Without You the Rig wouldn't be what it is today.

 

I Started out life as a KB racer playing F1 2011 and soon Stepped up to a G27..Wow what a Difference. So worth the 270$ or w/e it cost But as time went on racing in a Desk chair Sucks as im sure All of you will attest to. I tried a few different unique ways to hold the chair in place form Towels to little blocks of wood cut to raise the wheels up of the carpet.  While functional to a point there had to be a better way, So I asked a Tuner buddy who builds Crazy turbo Hondas if he had any old race seat's kicking around. 20 minutes later i had a Genuine Sparco Fighter for a whopping 25$....Now here's the catch, It was beat to Shi* and essentially needed a Bed sheet to cover it and forget all the battle Scars, tear's and Poor ass leather patch jobs the seats endured over the years. So build a Basic square box which was eventually modded into this.  Legs were attached when the COG became too far back and the seat would fall over. Lol  

 

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At this stage i had already dismounted the Stock G27 wheel in favor of a Stripped down Steelseries SRW-S1 which was mounted with a simple CF plate with threads and 4 holes in the wheel base I also retain the stock Shifter's as the S1's are pretty poor and have a weak link in the spring they use, More pics on that can be found here if curious. here

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Note, If you want your S1 to survive a decent amount of time under a FFB base, Do this.

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Old Bed Sheet Seat with the AeroDesigns Arges which was bought when i realized the Fighter's padding wasn't up to snuff for the long races. yes i could have sourced some Foam or something to freshed it up, But i Always wanted a "wrap around" GT style seat like this and when i found one locally for a decent price it was Far too hard to pass it up. Sparco was sold off to a buddy who also build a static sim for playing GT6.

 

 

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Next was the Stock Logi pedals, When searching and bring a noobie I saw all these Hydraulic and Load cell brakes and wanted to play with some Rc shock which i happen to have a Whack load of and eventually came up with this. Stock Logitech spring opened up a hair to clip onto the shock collars and 4 of 6 holes glued shut on the pistons on 45wt oil. I also added some AKA tire foam donut onto the shaft to have a real hard point at the end of the stroke while still maintaining Full travel.

 

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While it somewhat worked i felt again there had to be a better way, So after searching a few For sale threads on a few forums, I found Jon aka Basherboards selling a B.N set of clubsport V2's which i promptly snatched up.

 

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Now from having a Rc Racing backround, I knew the stock Fana shock was a POS the second i took it apart to inspect and fill with oil. promptly decided it was to be tossed in favor of something from my 1/8 racer's.  The 1/8 Mugen 6 line use the same length shocks for buggy and truggy and I had a spare set of shocks i bought a while back and turns out the rear's almost Drop right on with a Slight bit of modding to the mounting point, which I have to admit I already modded for the stock Shock as the Top of the shock cap was slowly being worn away by the mount. CHECK your shocks  I wouldn't doubt if they All have the same wear spot.

After a few days of testing i settled on the stock pistons with 35wt oil and a Kyosho Hard blue spring.

 

thread for the mounting details can be found here or here

 

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Ok so next dilemma was the fact that the Fana Load cell was overpowering my pedal box and basically making all sorts of creaks and cracks under load, The rear  pedal box posts essentially butted up to the 2 corner angles of the back of the desk and would sometimes go a little crooked if you hammered on the brakes, I wasn't allowed to Drill through the carpet and into the Hardwood underneath so the next quest started, A new PC build, New 47" Samsung and New 5.1 Pioneer setup for my room downstairs which has room for an actual Rig. So the Rig build begins.

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The Step Up, was to compensate for a Large Metal Shelving unit the TV sits on and to get the Rig as Close to the TV as possible.

 

Base and pedal box attached with new Raiser for the wheel base.

Base was left Long to allow a 8" powered sub to sit right behind the seat.

 

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1000$ budget for the PC build and we got the Final bill to 999.95$ with a few extra manager discounts thrown in at the last minute, (Thanks MemoryExpress)

 

Tv also came from them, Samsung 47" 1080HD 120 for a whopping 450$ also after manager discounts due to being the Last one...>Score.

 

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I kept the PC upstairs and Ran a 24' HDMI and 2 10' USB extensions to my Room downstairs. Got a powered USB hub and have Just enough ports to do what im up to Currently, might need to add a 2nd Hub. 

 

 

So here's the finished product  basically what i had envisioned and it allowed me to get my eyes to within 26"(i think) of the TV for a decent FOV. 

 

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#2 NickMoxley

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

After a little while i felt i wanted to get rid of the basically unused shelving unit the Tv sits on and get a Articulating TV mount. So I found a Mount locally that Extends a whopping 27" and was only 99$ So I disassembled the Shelf and went ahead to mount the Tv, Used part of the old shelf for the Amp/PVR rack on the right.  The Speaker mounts were made from some thin plexi glass i bent with a heat gun and bolted to the TV mount.

 

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At this point you can see Fanatec gear in the background. After building the new rig and all this work into the overall project I decided it was finally time to Invest in a wheel, The G27 did me proud and will hang on to it for maybe a future project. So after many weeks of waiting for the black friday sale which never really took place, I made my order the day After black friday, Couple weeks later my CSW base and rims showed up, Shifter was to arrive about a month later.

 

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Over the holidays I also Bought a Buttkicker Gamer 2 kit which has been an Awesome addition to the Rig, I plan to go with a Simulation Starter kit in the near future after the current project has wrapped up. 

 

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Next up was the Keyboard and Mouse Tray, I had an old swivel mount tray thingy before that with the addition of the CSS wouldn't work anymore so i Fabricated my own articulating mounts.

 

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CSS mount

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About a year after buying the pedals from Jon, I popped the load cell and decided to DIY it.    Load cells are available on Ebay for dirt cheap also the connector's you need.

 

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This being some of the most recent addition's, SRW S1 as a button box, while retaining the Gas paddle as a E brake (pending the game)

Also a Acer Tablet for an extra button box if needed or a HUD showing whatever.

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#3 NickMoxley

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

Static to motion you say..... well where's the motion you ask.  Its coming....>REAL soon.

 

 

These pics should give a Good indication as to what im up to.

 

 

47A 575w Server Power supplies from Ebay for a whopping 12.50$ Along with a pair of Pololu JRK 12v12's 

 

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10mm Rod ends again from Ebay for 11$ free shipping with Lever's and Holes drilled for direct mount 360deg hall effect pots.

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Motor's are 12/24V 200w, 20Nm

 

 

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And Finally the Joint and the seat. CV has been angle mounted to match the 10 deg angle of the stock seating position.

 

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Currently as of today I'm in the middle of rebuilding the Base to ensure it's as sturdy and solid as possible, Gluing and Screwing everything. Paint job is 1/2 done on the base and all the little bits and parts are being painted as well, Tomorrow I might just have the Seat Mounted on the frame and then on the base. Very excited to say the least.

 

 

Paint in Progress

 

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Seat Mounted and final measuring for rear arms.

 

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And thats Up to today,  Arms should be done tomorrow or Tuesday and might have this up and running come Wednesday/Thursday.   Freekin excited to say the least.


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#4 SpaceHedgehog

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Posted 23 March 2014 - 05:38 PM

Great write up Nick! You have been busy and this looks like it's going to be awesome. Any chance of a posting a vid once it's up and running?



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Posted 23 March 2014 - 05:41 PM

Great write up Nick! You have been busy and this looks like it's going to be awesome. Any chance of a posting a vid once it's up and running?

 

 

Thanks, Yes a Video i guess will be in order. Ill talk to a buddy with a decent hand held cam. 


Its Been a while coming for motion but thanks to a Very Few Key member's on multiple forums it was made possible. U guys know who you are.   :mrgreen:


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Posted 24 March 2014 - 05:55 PM

looks good man



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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:15 PM

Motor locks and rear arms done and still waiting on pots. Supposedly they were in US customs as of yesterday. 


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#8 NickMoxley

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:25 PM

Pot mount

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:15 PM

done well there



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Posted 30 March 2014 - 05:07 PM

Well the second i mounted the motor's to the mounts and mounted them to the rig, I knew the stock Angle iron wasn't up to snuff, So after getting thing's up and running this morning (and a bit of fun time) I tore it all apart and made these. IF these still flex, Ill have to go back to the drawing board on how to mount things. lol

Stock Vs Upgrade.



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New Motor mounts are Super Sturdy, Had a few test session's with a buddy who's 220lbs vs my 150lbs and managed to get the chip up to 180 before getting scared and calling it quits. Stupid heat sinks I ordered have yet to arrive but I called a Computer geek buddy who happen to have a bag FULL of assorted sizes and shapes, So I Now have the small squares installed for a testing session and will be modding the larger one's to fit if the one's I ordered don't show up any time soon.

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Small heatsinks brought temps down to 110 which is more than acceptable for the mean time.


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Next up was the shifter mount, I couldn't stand having my CSS sitting there staring me in the face not being used, So i went to work using the old motor mount angle iron. Here's what i came up with. Drilled and tapped the Seat riser using 4mm cap heads from my RC stuff and managed to get it Exactly where i had it before. Its also Uber sturdy like it was before.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 03:49 PM

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 08:04 PM

Thats awesome man! Looks great.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:23 AM

update,

 

Latest Addition is proving to be difficult, After speaking with Tech support they think something's up with the amp and thats the reason these new LFE's feel like duds. I can Barely feel them mounted Directly to the Seat Frame. 

 

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 05:21 PM

awesome looking setup - a video is a must!!


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 05:47 PM

Just fart harder to simulate vibrations.......



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:43 PM

lol @ dave, Im custom making "Gamer 2 style" mounts for me LFE's    I wont accept what Buttkicker told me which is a Load of BS as I 100% proved the tech wrong in a test i did today. So Custom mounts it is.


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Posted 01 May 2014 - 08:07 AM

Beawdy Mate!

And also, I got to try one of those shifters on a hire unit I played on, excellent shifter for sure!



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Posted 01 May 2014 - 09:29 AM

awesome build so far! I wish I knew more about motion, I would love to piece the parts out as opposed to dropping like 2 grand on one purchase. It seems really complicated though



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Posted 01 May 2014 - 11:30 AM

awesome build so far! I wish I knew more about motion, I would love to piece the parts out as opposed to dropping like 2 grand on one purchase. It seems really complicated though

 

 

 

FAR from complicated, Honestly.  Once you understand  what the components do and what's all needed, Its Pretty darn simple.  

 

 

Motor's, Motor ControllersPower supplies and some hardware to make it all work together. lol

 

 

Here's where you want to start out, 

 

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 01:05 PM

ive been there.. many times, signed up to! However, the link to the beginner forum is great but the problem is I cant find like one thread thats a how to. every build thread, everyone either has the parts, has ordered the already, or is midway through build and has a technical question. I cant find anything anywhere thats like "hey buy these motors, these controllers, these power supplies, and put this here and here and voila" I understand theres many options and such, but I cant find any thread that helps me with having absolutely no knowledge






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